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Marriage debate hits Federal Court…and OSU

January 13, 2010

The U.S. Supreme Court issued a ruling that stopped the proposed internet broadcasting of a trial on Proposition 8 (the California same-sex marriage ban passed by voters in 2008) that is being taken up in U.S. District Court of Northern California.  Supporters of the broadcast saw it as a new way to educate the public.  Opponents saw the broadcast as opening up the witnesses to harassment.  This trial is testing whether proposition 8 is constitutional.

Meanwhile a two sided formal debate on the subject of same sex marriage is being held next week at Oregon State University on the 21st. Below is the press release from the OSU Socratic Club:

The question of gay marriage is one of the most hotly debated moral and cultural issues of our time.  Should same-sex couples enjoy the same right to marry that heterosexual couples have?  Is homosexual activity within a committed monogamous relationship truly marriage?  Two nationally prominent speakers, who have appeared in many debates across the country on the subject of gay marriage, will present divergent points of view.  Maggie Gallagher will argue that marriage between a woman and a man is the fundamental, cross-cultural institution for bridging the male-female divide so that children have loving, committed mothers and fathers.  John Corvino will argue that marriage is a basic human right for everyone, an individual choice, and therefore something that same-sex couples should be able to experience and enjoy.

Speakers are Maggie Gallagher and John Corvino.   Maggie Gallagher is a writer and commentator who serves as president of the Institute for Marriage and Public Policy and the National Organization for Marriage.  She is the author of five books, including The Abolition of Marriage:  How We Destroy Lasting Love; and (with Linda Waite) The Case for Marriage.  She has written a syndicated column for Universal Press Syndicate since 1995.  John Corvino is Associate Professor of Philosophy at Wayne State University, where he has taught ethical theory, applied ethics, and early modern philosophy since 1998.  He is the editor of Same Sex:  Debating the Ethics, Science, and Culture of Homosexuality.  His writing has been featured in Between the Lines (Michigan’s GLBT weekly), in academic journals, and in over a dozen anthologies. The event is at 7 p.m. on Thursday, January 21, Austin Auditorium, LaSells Stewart Center , Oregon State University Corvallis.

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Chuck Anziulewicz January 13, 2010

The main thing that I find most dismaying about Maggie Gallagher is that she sees absolutely no room for compromise. It isn’t just the word “marriage” that causes her such wailing and gnashing of teeth. No, in Maggie’s World there is no room for civil unions, domestic partnerships, or ANY of the legal benefits, protections, and responsibilities for Gay couples that our Straight counterparts have long taken for granted.

Never minds that law-abiding, taxpaying Gay Americans contribute our fair share to society. In Maggie’s World, we are deserving of NOTHING, and the 14th Amendment be damned.

Robert January 13, 2010

Chuck, I think you are reading a lot into and are giving a lot of credit to “Maggie’s world.” The issue here is marriage and since this site is on Faith I say we should consider what the Bible says on this subject,… the gay lifestyle is an abomination before the Lord. Enough said.

Chris January 13, 2010

I still struggle with the fact that the Californian’s have passed a law TWICE against gay marriages. That’s what the people of the state want – how come the courts can overturn this? The law abiding, tax paying citizens of this country should be the ones making the laws and our polotical leaders should be representing them, not the other way around.

Drew Desilet January 13, 2010

Prior to the 1967 US Supreme Court ruling in Loving vs. VA, where the Supreme Court ruled that anti-miscegenation laws were unconstitutional (those laws disallowing marriages between people of opposite races), more than 70% of the American public thought those laws were “God’s laws” and that they should stand. This was even the thought in the 1883 Supreme Court ruling on the same matter; mixing of the races was an abomination of the Lord. Now less than 5% of the American public still thinks people of opposite races should not be allowed to marry. Times change, interpretations of the Bible even change over time, as is clearly evident by the opinions and “interpretations” of the anti-miscegenation laws here in our Country prior to 1967.

ralph reed January 13, 2010

Certain passages in the Bible condone slavery and state that slaves should be obedient to their masters. Paul may or may not have actually written the demeaning remarks attributed to him on the subjects of slavery and on the 5 to 10 percent of the human population relevant to this debate. In fact, writings attributed to Paul in three letters reject slavery, condone it half-heartedly, and whole-heartedly endorse it. I doubt that Paul had such hugely divergent views on slavery. We simply do not know what Paul actually wrote, or whether we have all his letters, or the full extent of how much they have been tampered with. To believe Paul had all three views is to make him out as an incredibly inconsistent fool. For a few centuries the American South and many states condoned slavery and did not allow marriage between blacks and whites.
Plain and simple, unless we are willing to accept ALL of the Bible, including prohibition of divorce, stoning of non-virgins after their wedding night, and so on, it is highly petty and inconsistent for people in the 21st Century to continue to use the excuse of selected quotes to force their beliefs on others.
Plain and simple, if you don’t like gay marriage, don’t marry a gay person. If you still hate people of other races, don’t marry them. If you still think women should be barefoot and pregnant, find one and marry her. Paul may actually be spinning in his grave because of the current controversies based on what some people believe to have been his words. Paul’s message was one of love, not hate.

Tripper January 14, 2010

Unusual to hear people doing a two-sided take on the issue. I hope they allow for audience questiosn and I hope they may think about putting it on You Tube, cuz I reckon the rest of the state mitth have an interest on this.

noname January 14, 2010

Not everyone has made up their mind on this, that may be surprising but true.

nice2see January 14, 2010

Nice to see OSu doign their academic duties. While the students are talking the political pushers are busy talking through lawsuits and ballot measures. Can’t we all just get along?

Pastor_BEW January 22, 2010

As a pastor I have set feelings on the issue of same sex marriage, it is clear as what I believe just read the bible about the subject.
We have that clear so we move to the next phase is it ok for them to do this? That also REAL CLEAR “Free will” I have no place to say it cannot be done because it is being done and will continue. As a Pastor it is our job to inform people of the word and it is up to them to take it or not. You cannot play GOD it is wrong and you will push the chance away to help change the way people are. Just pray and God bless all Hope this is taken in good and it goes out with love for all.
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