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Dealing with rejection in the #metoo generation

January 31, 2018

Yes, it’s harder to be a man in the #MeToo #TimesUp era – grow up about it

By Tom Krattenmaker

Is it hard to be a man these days, as actor William H. Macy and others are saying? Has it suddenly become more complicated for men to go after women for sex, and escape consequences when the chase goes awry?

It certainly has. As it should. Now’s the time for heterosexual men to adjust to the overdue new reality that’s setting in and stop treating women like sex is the main reason they’ve been put on this earth.

There was no clearer illustration of that attitude than the double political hit of the past few days: Casino mogul Steve Wynn had to resign as finance chair of the Republican National Committee amid charges of rampant sexual harassment and assault. And Hillary Clinton had to defend how her 2008 presidential campaign handled sexual harassment allegations against its faith outreach director, Burns Strider.

Like many men, Macy seemed to be struggling to process the moment of swift cultural change set in motion by the Harvey Weinstein sex abuse revelations last fall and captured by the #MeToo and #TimesUp movements. “It’s hard to be a man these days,” Macy said in an interview backstage last week at the Screen Actors Guild Awards. “A lot of us feel like we’re under attack and feel like we need to apologize. Perhaps we do. Perhaps we are.”

In Hollywood and other major sectors of American life, parades of women have been speaking bravely and candidly about the sexual misconduct men have inflicted on them. They’ve been calling out wider patterns of entitlement and abuse that reduce women to less than the complex, intelligent and capable people they are.

Macy, when asked what advice he would give to younger men about how to interact with women, seemed caught between two worlds: the one that’s been, in which men are allowed lots of leeway to pursue women for sex and abuse their authority to get it, and the one now emerging, in which women are treated as equals — valued for their brains, not their bodies — and free passes are no longer given under the foolish notion that “boys will be boys.”

Macy is right about the need for apology. But men are not “under attack” — not unless you think it’s an “attack” when a bully is called out, stopped and given his comeuppance.
If you want to know who’s been under attack, ask women. You’ll hear story after story of being badgered by men who won’t take “no” for an answer, of being backed into corners where there’s no way out, physically or otherwise. You’ll hear story after story of women being treated as though their bodies and sexuality are not fully theirs but, rather, something to which men have a rightful claim.

Men, how would you like it if your workplace colleagues were more interested in the shape of your body than your ability and ideas? If your boss made it clear your career prospects depended on giving in to his sexual advances? If you were expected to smile your way through such an ordeal and “take it as a compliment”?

That’s how it’s been for many women.

Talk to the women in your life. Read their stories on the Internet and in the media. You’ll learn about the tactics they’ve had to develop, like giving out fake phone numbers to heavy-handed men who won’t let up at a bar or a party, like female bystanders overhearing a menacing conversation and intervening by giving the victim a big hug and pretending to be her friend. These should not be necessary.

In his backstage interview, Macy said he had recently taken part in a men’s meeting under the auspices of the #TimesUp movement. “We talked,” Macy said, accurately pointing out that men don’t do enough of that.

Indeed, men should be talking. Here’s what we should be telling each other about how to relate to women.

Stop treating them as though they exist to please our eyes and excite our bodies. Stop putting them in impossible situations where they’re a “slut” if they do or a “bitch” if they don’t. Stop treating sex as a form of recreation while leaving women to deal with the profound reproductive consequences.
So you’re not sure anymore how to approach a woman to whom you’re attracted? Start by getting to know her as a person and developing a relationship with her.

So you can’t handle it when a woman rebuffs you? It’ll be OK. You’ll meet other women. As Kelly Macias writes at Daily Kos, “Men need to learn that rejection is part of life and that you won’t actually die when someone you are interested in isn’t interested in you.”

Sure, it probably has gotten harder to be a man. Let’s man up about it. Better yet, let’s grow up.

  
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Lives in Reality February 18, 2018

Have you EVER rejected a female you work with, or who is part of your social circle?

WOMEN DO NOT HANDLE REJECTION WELL BECAUSE THEY NEVER HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT.

Men get used to dealing with rejection early on because even the best looking of guys gets shot down more than an ugly woman, because men are first actors. If you don’t get that, if game-theory terms are beyond you — then go to grad school and stop writing these analyses until you’ve got an advanced degree in a quantitative field.

Whoever you are writing this to impress… She isn’t going to sleep with you. You’re right that men need to handle rejection well — it’s just that I live in reality WHERE WE ALL ALREADY DO. The vast majority of men are rejected, and do not do a damn thing except try again with another woman later. You’re writing about a TINY percentage of men, as if they are rule and not the exception. Maybe YOU can’t handle rejection, but all the men I know can.

Anyway I reiterate my original point… Reject a woman when she has the opportunity to do you social harm and then get back to me. I don’t think you have much experience with women, honestly.

Lives in Reality February 18, 2018

Seriously Tommy, stop writing for men about relationships. In fact, stop writing. You’re parroting bullshit and you think it’s helpful. Nothing in what you said is original, insightful, or based in reality.

“Indeed, men should be talking. Here’s what we should be telling each other about how to relate to women.”

No, we should be following the laws and not violating men or women’s rights. PLAN AND FUCKING SIMPLE. Neither men nor women should have their rights violated. This is why marxist feminists think the rest of you are fucking idiots. Because you’re economically retarded as to the common struggle of labor. WOMEN ARE PART OF LABOR AND LABOR IS BEING FUCKED. IF YOU ACTUALLY SUPPORTED WORKER’S RIGHTS THEN YOU’D ACTUALLY HELP ALL PEOPLE BEING FUCKED AND NOT JUST WEALTHY BECKY FEMINISTS WHO LIVE IN NYC AND GOT CAT CALLED.

Are you actively trying to make liberals lose elections? You’re fucking idiotic version of feminist shitspeak is what drives people away from the liberal tent.

How about I conduct myself within the law, you conduct yourself within the law and we all stay the fuck out of eachother’s business? Because I don’t want your water-headed advice on women, or behaviors in general. No one does.

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